Centrum voor Proceswerk - Wildervanksterdallen 23

Name: Centrum voor Proceswerk - Wildervanksterdallen 23
Address: Wildervanksterdallen 23, 9648 TB Wildervank, Netherlands, Wildervank, 9648, Netherland

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Address :	Wildervanksterdallen 23, 9648 TB Wildervank, Netherlands
Phone :	📞 +77
Postal code :	9648
Website :	http://www.proceswerk.nl/
Categories :	Training centre ,
City :	Wildervank

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B	Bas Klompmaker on Google ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ik ben hier op aanraden van een vriendin heengegaan, ik wilde al jaren ayahuasca proberen, maar ik was ook wel een beetje bang, bang voor de ayahuasca ervaring, maar ook bang voor sekte-achtige taferelen. ik ben best openminded (althans dat vind ik zelf) maar ik kan niet zo goed tegen hippie-achtig geneuzel. ik was dus opzoek naar een veilige plek om voor t eerst kennis te maken met de plant. en die heb ik gevonden! ik ben er toen samen met een goede vriend heengegaan, hij was al eerder gegaan, en bevestigde de goede referentie van mijn vriendin. mijn eerste ervaring was te mooi, alle angsten verdwenen, ik voelde me veilig. nanda leidde de eerste ceremonie, alles was perfect, ik heb gehuild, gelachen, en ook flink overgegeven :-) en de ervaring heeft ook een lange tijd daarna doorgewerkt, ik was van een hoop angsten bevrijd, en voelde me fantastisch. ik ben daarna nog een aantal keren terug geweest, en dat zal ik in de toekomst ook zeker doen. joop en nanda en alle mensen die meehelpen daar doen fantastisch goed werk. mijn enige punt van kritiek is dat t zo ver weg is :-) <3 <3 <3 I went here on the advice of a friend, I wanted to try ayahuasca for years, but I was also a bit scared, afraid of the ayahuasca experience, but also afraid of cult-like scenes. I'm pretty openminded (at least I think so), but I can not bump into hippie-like gibberish. So I was looking for a safe place to first get acquainted with the plant. and I found it! I went there with a good friend, he had gone before, and confirmed the good reference of my girlfriend. my first experience was too beautiful, all fears disappeared, I felt safe. nanda led the first ceremony, everything was perfect, I cried, laughed, and also vomited :-) and the experience also worked a long time after, I was freed from a lot of fears, and I felt fantastic. I have been back several times, and I will certainly do so in the future. Joop and Nanda and all the people who help do a fantastic job there. my only criticism is that it is so far away :-) <3 <3 <3
H	Hanse Kader on Google ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ Grundsätzlich ein schöner Ort an dem interessante Menschen zusammen kommen und der das Potential birgt tief an eigenen Themen zu arbeiten. Die Begleitung der Arbeit durch Joop und seine Helfer ist jedoch aus therapeutischer Sicht vollkommen unzureichend. Besonders bei psychisch labilen Personen birgt die unzulängliche Begleitung das Risiko einer Retraumatisierung. Ich habe es erlebt wie Teilnehmer nach dem Workshop mit der Erfahrung alleine gelassen wurden und sie sehr verwirrt und desorientiert waren. Sowohl vor, während und auch nach der Ayahuasca Reise war die Begleitung alles andere als gut. Bei der Vorbesprechung wurden zum Beispiel nach nur wenigen Worten Traumata diagnostiziert und Themen benannt an denen die Teilnehmenden zu arbeiten hätten. Während der Reise habe ich erlebt wie sich einige der Teilnehmer meldeten und den Austausch suchten. Diese Meldungen wurden vollkommen ignoriert oder einfach übersehen. Der Eindruck entstand, dass es sich bei den Workshops mit Joop eher um gemeinsames Drogen nehmen und High sein handelt als um verantwortliche therapeutische Arbeit mit psychedelischen und entheogenen Substanzen. Wer einen schönen Trip erleben will und psychisch stabil ist, für den mag der Ort gut und richtig sein. Für all diejenigen die eher instabil sind oder auch so tief gehen möchten, dass es zeitweise sinnvoll ist verantwortungsvolle Begleitung zu haben, rate ich von einer Teilnahme bei Joop ab. Basically a nice place where interesting people come together and has the potential to work deeply on their own topics. However, the accompaniment of the work by Joop and his helpers is completely inadequate from a therapeutic point of view. Especially in mentally unstable persons the inadequate accompaniment carries the risk of a re-traumatisation. I experienced how participants were left alone with the experience after the workshop and they were very confused and disoriented. Both before, during and after the Ayahuasca journey, the accompaniment was anything but good. For example, at the briefing, trauma was diagnosed after only a few words and topics were named where the participants would work. During the trip, I experienced how some of the participants answered and sought the exchange. These messages were completely ignored or simply overlooked. The impression emerged that the workshops with Joop were more about joint drugs and high than about responsible therapeutic work with psychedelic and entheogenic substances. If you want to experience a nice trip and are mentally stable, the place may be good and right for you. For all those who are rather unstable or want to go so deep that it makes sense to have a responsible companion at times, I advise against participating in Joop.
S	Sarabrina on Google ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ Het allermooiste geschenk dat ik mijzelf heb mogen geven. Alles was perfect georganiseerd. Joop is een stabiele goede leider en dat creëert veiligheid om zelf op vol vertrouwen op reis te gaan. Absoluut een aanbeveling <3 The most beautiful gift that I have been able to give myself. Everything was organized perfectly. Joop is a stable, good leader and that creates safety to travel confidently. Definitely a recommendation <3
R	Rianne Poortman on Google ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ De allerfijnste plek die ik me maar kan bedenken. Zo blij met alle lessen en inzichten die ik tot nu toe heb verkregen hier, zowel tijdens als na de ceremonies. Joop en Nanda houden een spiegel voor en laten daarbij jezelf zien en geven je de mogelijkheid gedrag en emotie te reflecteren op de meest natuurlijke manier. The best place I can imagine. So happy with all the lessons and insights I've gained so far here, both during and after the ceremonies. Joop and Nanda hold up a mirror and thereby show yourself and give you the opportunity to reflect behavior and emotion in the most natural way.
O	Odette van Haastrecht on Google ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ De beste plek die ik kan bedenken om aan jezelf te werken, trauma te verwerken en te helen. Hoewel ik aan de andere kant van het land woon, erg bekend ben met ayahuasca en voldoende plekken dichter bij huis ken, weet ik zeker dat ik hier vaker terugkom. Joop is een krachtige en stabiele ceremonie leider, met een no nonsense aanpak en een knipoog. Voorafgaand aan de ceremonie worden niet alleen de intenties besproken maar wordt er ook uitgebreid gevraagd naar dingen die omhoog zouden kunnen komen. De ceremonies zelf en de integratiesessies worden op een professionele manier begeleid. Veel kennis, kunde, ervaring en liefde hier. Ik zou het iedereen aanraden! Deze plek is perfect voor een eerste kennismaking met ayahuasca maar ook voor hen die al veel gereisd hebben. The best place I can think of to work on yourself, process trauma and heal. Although I live on the other side of the country, am very familiar with ayahuasca and know plenty of places closer to home, I'm sure I'll be coming back here more often. Joop is a powerful and stable ceremony leader, with a no nonsense approach and a wink. Before the ceremony, not only the intentions are discussed, but also extensively asked about things that could come up. The ceremonies themselves and the integration sessions are supervised in a professional manner. Lots of knowledge, skills, experience and love here. I would recommend it to everyone! This place is perfect for a first introduction to ayahuasca but also for those who have already traveled a lot.
J	J Dupont on Google ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ People were being pressured to take the drug again and again, even if it caused them suffering. My overall experience with this place has been negative because of the way people got treated by the facilitators during the ceremony. The medicine that is administered there is not the original Ayahuasca, but another DMT tea made out of Peganum Harmala & Jurema, which lasts shorter than the original Ayahuasca, which is why they gave it three times in a row on one evening. The facilitators pressured participants to drink the tea again & again, no matter how much suffering the drug caused them. If they refused to take the drug again, Joop (a psychotherapist and leader of these ceremonies) put so much psychological pressure on them until they relented and did it again and again. These people did not drink the tea again because they really want to, but because Joop had abused & triggered their fears and resistances to manipulate them to take the drug again, even if they clearly expressed that they do not want to do it again, because their previous trip had been so terrible, painful, horrific, etc... In the ceremony I did, there were several people who screamed during their trips, because the drug inflicted so much suffering and/or terror on them, but they were pressured anyway to do it again. I suggest to go to other places were the drug is not forced upon you and were you get treated with more respect.
E	Evren Özay on Google ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ Through a recommendation I got to Proceswerk and I had most profound experience in my live there. The place and facilitators are lovely. The review about forcing to drink again is something I can’t share. It’s true that you will be asked to join the second round and if someone doesn’t want you will be asked kindly again, cause most of the time you realize and regret later if you don’t join. Of course you don’t have to. And about crying, it is a part of the healing. I remember well asking a crying person after the ceremony how it was and she said it helped her. It was an answer I would not expected in that moment but understand later. I can recommend Proceswerk without doubt.
T	Thijs V on Google ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ It's a great place. Safe, deep work. Ayahuasca is confronting and that's exactly what it's supposed to be; all fundaments we've built over the decades will fall apart (if based on fear), so of course people cry.. and laugh ... and do the inner work. Trying to fix what we've known to be false all along. Joop brings in an immense experience, pure presence, and no nonsense, which is exactly what most people need. His focus is very much on our birth, that's where many deep patterns in our life come to the surface. And unlike most places there is lots of time for sharing.